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Post by Older Posts » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:42 pm

I'm getting thoroughly confused by all the digits of the number of occupants, omkommna and surviving! In principle, almost everywhere, differ digits from one to the other ......

On some websites it says that 2227 people were on board for the maiden voyage, of which 1522 were killed. This results in 705 survivors, and it is these numbers that I am using. In Claes Göran Wetterberg Holm's latest book Sagoskeppet, it is stated that 2207 people were on board and that 1495 of them died and 712 survived.

On the Titanic, the Nordic countries are close, steady the number of persons who were on board the Titanic, so I decided simply to make your own little calculation. What I came to the conclusion then was that there were 1,317 paying passengers aboard, 898 besättningmän, giving a total of 2215 people. Of those killed 1502 people.

Quite confusing is not it?

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Post by Older Posts » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:43 pm

yeah it was confusing but I have read in a book about the Titanic, how many there were, but it's at school but I'll see then how many passengers and crew members it was

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Post by Older Posts » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:43 pm

I rely enough on Claes-Göran Wetterholm about numbers. 1495 dead, 712 survivors on board in 2207, in total.
It was lucky that it was low-season for the number of passengers, the Titanic had the capacity to take many more, as you probably know.

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Post by Older Posts » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:44 pm

I know that Claes-Göran Wetterholm is one of the world's foremost experts on the Titanic, but when the numbers are so different so I do not know what to believe. Because I have always believed that about 1500 people died and 705 survived.
I think I'll take and e-mail Wetterholm and ask a detailed question about the numbers.

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Post by Older Posts » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:44 pm

No one knows for sure, so we will just have to content ourselves with ca. 1500 people were killed, o just over 700 survived!

ps. If you get the answer of Wetterholm, so please tell me what he said =)

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Post by Older Posts » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:45 pm

Well this was a little confusing, is not you alone about it. But this happened after a long time ago so there is almost no one who can huh sure how many people survived and how many died. If this had happened 20 years it would have been easier the shipping company has gone to a shipping company named Cunard right now. Cunard might have left the papers about how many died and how many survived. But talk about more facts about the about the damage that has occurred and which celebrities who died and who survived. This Titanic is more than interesting, it is a fantastic ship with brief lives of those seven seas.

This is just more like to gamble but yet is on the right track and not totally wrong. I do not think we should complain about a writer doing wrong because if we ourselves were writers and wrote facts about the Titanic, we would huh stare birds who can not think.

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Post by Older Posts » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:45 pm

Here is the response I got from Wetterholm completely intact!

Hey!

I do not know if you have "Sagoskeppet" which came out in 2008. There I have the following numbers:

1 class 324
2 class 277
3 class 708
Crew 885 (NOTE: Do not forget the musicians, 8 pieces and postal officials, 5 pcs. The most often overlooked away, neither crew or the passengers). Total 898


Total 2207 board
Fatal 1495
rescued 712


I have a passenger list from 1912, maybe you visit the Titanic exhibition in the summer, then you could see the list there. The list is, we have learned from many years of research, the best and compiled by the White Star Line and was used in different offices which the public sought out to find out whether this or that survived and survived.


Most books opch other records are copying each other, very few conduct their own research. I have done this with a good friend, Peter Engberg-Klarström and together we have come to the above figures. In Germany, Herman Sölldner arrived at almost exactly the same figures except that he enter the 1496 death.

Hope you are happy with the answer, many greetings

Claes-Göran

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Post by Older Posts » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:47 pm

I think probably still be saved and 705 fatalities in 1502 sounds like the most likely in my ears. It is these figures quoted in Walter Lord's book Titanic - a night to remember, and it he had collected facts and information for over 30 years.

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Post by Older Posts » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:47 pm

from the book I talked about it was by Paul Shipton and according to him there were 322 in first class, second class 275, in the third grade and 712 crew 898

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Post by Older Posts » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:47 pm

As Wetterholm type so carries the very few authors own research. Most copies of each other.

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